He even admired Arjuna's abilities...was proud of his little brother, but he swore to kill arjuna...that is the only reason he let other 4 pandavs live and not all five.Karna's story is not just about his greatness and story of how was he wronged....but its also a really sad story of how such a great man fell.Even Ashwatthama was an awesome man...fate just had them on the wrong side in battle field. Vishnu Sitaram Sukthankar, General Editor of BORI disclosed that Draupadi’s rejection was found only in 6 out of 1259 Sanskrit manuscripts. The typical reasons are because he was abandoned as a child, he was cheated by Krishna, he should have been treated as their brother, he was loved by Dhuryodhana and because he never said 'no' to anybody. यत = If I am aware that you long for me. This means that Karna is invited in the Swayamvar. What Krishna did was right and what Arjuna did was right in the given circumstances. There's no point in the epic where he tries to be god; he tries to be good (and succeeds often) and yet he has his fair share of fallacies just like all of us have. Karna, in fact, abused Draupadi in the Kuru court, called her a “bandhaki”, meaning a prostitute, and instigated Dushshsasana to disrobe her. Then Pandu did another selfish thing. Shastra means 'secret' or 'knowledge'. When Karna tried to compete, she certainly didn’t favor him in any way. If he does then, is he failed in the task? Karna, the noble one, the virtuous one, the charitable one, the son of the Sun God himself, had a life which seemed to be one long suffering. dharmashastra - the truth behind my dharma, Peri Peri Decent - Nando's, Phoenix Mall, Velachery, Chennai. Shishupala was in fact killed by Krishna during the Rajasuya Yaga. Just to add to his arguments - when Yudhishtra laments at Krishna was blinding him to the fact that Karna was indeed his brother and used him to kill Karna, Krishna laughs it off and says - "why do you keep blaming yourself as if you killed Karna? She used to bring all the news of Krishna to her and Krishna was himself aware that Draupadi longs for him. If Karna had extreme loyalty towards Duryodhan it is understandable because at the other end, he sees no rights and claims to throne, nor decent behavior.Draupadi's humiliation was wrong. - This is not only to show Karna's true strength, it is also a lesson to Arjuna in the art of appreciating true strength's of the opponent. Karna was the great person but because of his words about Panchali made him evil from the Pandavas view.He preferred Durodhanas side was not his falt. Don't make only debate, take lessons from the Great epic Mahabharata. This is evident in the next para ....Drona, who was the guru of the princes requests them as a GuruDakshina , the throne of Drupada ( due to an ancient rivalry ) .. and Arjuna , proudly captures Drupada .. Mahabharata symbolizes the end of Dwapar yug and the start of Kali yug. Karna is one of the most wonderful characters of this epic according to Lord Krishna. Another reason could be due to TRP (Television Rating Point). But we should also learn that despite get insulted, we must keep our mind calm. No sane person would hand over a shield that can protect his life on the eve of war to his biggest enemy 's father (Indra). Another reason could be due to TRP (Television Rating Point). What does BORI’s Mahabharata say on this issue? He tells him "win her for me, my friend" so she would be … There is no statement to that effect in the Mahabharata. Not just Mahabharata, if we have read Vishnu's other tales, Vishnu always protects the worlds and ensures the balance of the world. He could have easily disclosed the identity of Karna..2. But Karna refused the offer. This and the slaying of Abhimanyu were two mistakes which were unpardonable. This offer of Krishna to Karna is the most discussed part from Mahabharata. The ones which contained the rejection were relatively newer and inserted evidently after the work of Vyasa (author of Mahabharata). I'm female.. and i would insult Draupati as well. Imagine being respected and obeyed by 99 brothers! परायणैः = well versed So what on earth are these Brahmins doing here ) .... At this time , the wise Krishna somehow justifies the rationale and gives a lecture about things that only he can give .. and in short buys the argument in favour of Arjuna .. and he won .. That said , where was ethics & moral rights practiced here especially when the basic condition which Karna satifies was hardly the case with Arjuna .. That ‘forbidden Love or secret love’ has no basis in Vyas Sanskrit Canon Mahabharata. Karna angered by this retaliated in sort and Arjuna's chariot bared moved a few inches and to this Krishna shouted "Baley Karna!" We tend to look at things from people's view, who cheated who and who did what, etc. History praises those who win. They do not want to mess with it for the sake of authenticity. Draupadi had a servant named Nitambini. बटु मात्रेण = Brahmana what he said then was his downfall and a word of frustration of really angry man. Thanks & do comment in case you see any discrepancy, These are just my understanding and I could be wrong. Come, join us. Here's the most important conversation between Karna and Sri Krishna that is an eye opener - Mahabharata the Epic of Epics has some beautiful aspects of … Even when Arjuna killed Karna's sarthi...karna not even by mistake shot an arrow that might hurt Arjuna's saarthiafter his truth was revealed...Krishna compared how small pandav were to KarnaKrishna, Karna and Bheesma were noblest of all people. It is not possible, since in the Dwaapar Yug, Caste system did not exist, but, Varna system existed. Even Arjun? – SECTION CLXXXIX. Hare Krsna TV - ISKCON Desire Tree 5,789 views. Moreover, Krishna very well knows the reason behind her having five husbands (Lord Shiva's boon etc.). सुकुण्डलश्चित्रसेनः सुवर्चाः कनकध्वजः | “Why are you doing this to yourself? karna is man of his word2.he never afraid of his death even though he knew he is going to die3.If he wants he can be the king but he decided to be a friend U honestly belief that draupathi is pativratha where in the hell or in heaven or anywhere did u see a women marries his husbands 4 brothers well i havent except here In mahabharath arjuna had the support of krishna,lord hanuman,during the war but karna fought alone with all three and he was still killed unfarelywhat makes u think that arjuna is greater than karna. Kunti is your mother and your father is Surya.” Suddenly, Karna broke down. Oh please!Did you know that in the original story she doesn't say anything? Third Instance ::: No sight of Arjuna or anyone who can lift the bow , suddeny some Brahmins come ( obviously Arjuna ) and tries to enter the Swayamvar .. to which Duryodhana reports that 'Drishtadyumna himslef proclaimed that only Kings of Kings can marry his sister .. MUST READ: Different names of Karna in Mahabharat | Karna is not his original name. But when Jayadratt humiliated her, Yudhishter had left him. Dharma has several meanings. Okay .. - Arjuna was angered at this compliment and lamented to Krishna in anger and said "You have never complimented to any of my heroid deeds but here you're complimenting an enemy who is out here to kill me??" When the Mahabharat war became unavoidable, Shri Krishna had deliberately tried to play a war strategy by saying that Karna is son of Kunti. Where is Yudhistir's wisdom visible in that? compared to Karna's factual statement...5. दवीजा: = O Brahmanas, If still in doubt, you can check the English meaning of Sanskrit words from here: http://spokensanskrit.org/. Karna's character teaches us about loyalty, donation,perfection. Not even when five children were born. Lord Krishna praised Karna even during the battle between Arjuna and Karna. Were they really warriors?There are many such instances where pandavas n kurus both were at fault. but then. Not because i dont agree with all of the above. Many scholars having been amazed by the depth of their relationship have often suggested that there was more to Krishna Draupadi friendship than met the eye. Etiquettes - those are what form the protocols of warfare. But Kunti wanted comforts of palace, so is the ambition of that widow responsible for Mahabarata?Back in Hastinapur, it is natural for Duryodhan to resent these cousins who had no claims suddenly coming up for claims. Whoever has some knowledge of Mahabharata should be aware of the most popular version of this story. Krishna himself says how Karna's words were hurting to Arjuna. Well in all of the people there, only Karna was the one who stood up to help Draupadi, but she couldnt say a word to him and he misinterpreted this. Yudhistir? She wanted to marry him as Krishna was known to be the finest among all Aryaputras. पराणतॊ = succeed It also indicates that Drupada (Draupadi’s father) does not consider Karna unqualified for the Swayamvar. So let's take some lessons and stop this debate of who was right and who was wrong. The village is named KONDAL, Mayiladuthurai Taluk, Nagapattinam District, Nidur P.O, Tamil Nadu. They all did what they had to do. Krishna: Do you know that you are the eldest Kunti Putra. So much for respect and humiiation dude .. I know, let's have the swords drawn out against me ! I quote the passage from Mahabarath only to prove that Karna's hatred for the Pandavas was so huge that it clouded his every judgement.Krishna showed clearly that he too is capable of deceit, to achieve the ultimate goal. Chopra’s Mahabharat or its recent 2013 remake on Star Plus named Mahabharat sticks to the popular storyline? Second Instance : During the Sywayamvar , all the kings tryout but ( obviously) even fail to lift the bow .... and so does Duryodhana .. Now Comes Karna .. Duryodhana as bad as he is portrayed, was the only one who gave Karna the respect he deserved, unlike Bheem and Draupadi eho insulted Karna because he was a sut-putra. There is a common belief in South India that Draupadi was also an incarnation of Maha Kali. It contains all kinds of sheds. But I thought it should have been Pandu who should have opted to behave like Bharat and say, let my brother wear the crown, and let me be his eyes, ears, and strength. Hence he is the yeldest brother of Pandavas. This critical edition will contain the oldest shlokas, thus removing the part which is later added to it. It is said that Krishna and Draupadi shared an iconic relationship. It clearly indicates that Karna also failed in the task as he is one of the kings. Note , he was indisguise at that time & hence could not even reveal his kingship ...4. You are talking about karna insulted draupadhi then why draupadhi insulted karna in swayamwar by calling him sutaputra if she want to marry arjuna then he had to arange the swayamwar according to her choice by wish, why they aranged the competitionAnd karna did not call her as whore, the draupadhi asked with bishma how a kulavadhu become the bet in dice karna interfere and said you are not kulavadhu (kulavadhu means women married and live truly with one man) by married more than four men you violate the principle so you are not kulavadhu karna said, If she want to choose her husband in swayamwar she had to making swayamwar as choosing husband by her choice . Hi Buddy .. Great post .. Draupadi insuled Karna during her swayamvara. Note that Pandu did not give similar share to his blind brother before. All the Pandavas will welcome you. And I have no wish to become the king. No . i agree to some gentleman who said vishnu did the balancing act.. i mean he made sure the universe had a balance of good and evil. We all know that 'KRISHNA' was the reincarnation of vishnu... and like all reincarnations this one too had a purpose.. what we all know is that he was born to kill his uncle 'KANSA'.. but thats not totally true.. Krishna was born to reduce the no of SHATRIYAS.. as most of them were immortal and hence there was no balance.. lot of them were unjust. In these situation, even deceitful killing of Maharathis can be justified. One of the shrines, where She is a Grama-Devatha and Kula-Devatha to many, is located in one of the small villages of Tamil Nadu. Even Yudhistra never stopped his brothers from insulting Karan when he was supposed to be dharmaraj. Anger is natural under circumstances. Ultimately do you remember Nakul? He never proved that he is Superior warrior as compared to Arjuna. Krishna believes it so for years later when he tries to lure Karna away from the Kauravas he offers the following bribe, “You will be king. Karna epitomized loyalty and generosity. There are no reports of Dhritarashtra having been bad administrator or his sons being bad either prior to arrival of Pandavas, are there? They discovered during their research that the popular rejection sequence in which “Draupadi rejects Karna” appears only in the newer versions of the manuscripts. Karna indeed will be remembered as a tragic hero. like amba,ambika,ambalika why they arrange competition in swayamwar this is like I keeping conpetition and give you the kohinoor diamond if you win that,when you in the chance of nearly win I stoped the competition in afraid and say your clothes is not good so I will not allow you to win the kohinoor what a justice. 5:10. Krishna wanted the war, he had promised to ensure it happens to Draupadi. He always wanted to know who he was and where he came from. I guess the term ' Bhikshaa' was a complement to Draupadi ..!!! They do not want to mess with it for the sake of authenticity. Krishna was testing how much can Karna sacrifice and how much is he taken up by greed. This clearly evident when he donates the fruits of all his good deeds including this one. Doesnt mean he didnt care. She forgave Jayadratha after he abducted her. and exactly my thoughts! We take revenge if someone humiliate us. we have sympathy for him. The question about Karna could be placed better, if it followed another question ‘who in the entire Mahabharata, actually liked Draupadi very much, and supported her sincerely, apart from Krishna, and controversially her husbands. Karna always knew that the Pandavas would win the war of Kurukshetra. then Lord said no . If Abhimanyu's death was trecherous , I fail to guess how you would classify Bhishma's , Drona's, Jayadratha's, Duryodhana's & Karna's death !! Because if Draupadi does not reject Karna, then people do not sympathise with Karna. 8. But the fact is Karna possessed all 5 of those qualities.. then why didnt krishna allow draupadi to marry him.. Infact it was Krishna who reminded her of her rights to chose whom she would like to marry.As far as the Viraat war is concerned Karna didnt run away.. Duryodhana got injured while fighting with Arjuna, so karna like a true friend took him to safety. This does not sit well with many. Is it Krishna , or , Arjuna , or Bheeshma ? OK guys...so much debate has been made on this. The killing of Abhimanyu was trecaherous !! This was the comment that he passed .. and yes, do note that he opposed the Vastraharan scene considering it beneath his stature .... Now, you all blame Karna for telling the god-awful truth , but none of you guys actually point a finger at the Pandava ( Yudhisthira ) who had never won Draupadi as a rightful wife but still deemed to put her as a baazee in the game . Krishna (Vishnu) is a protector, while Siva being the destroyer and Brahma the creator. Draupadi did not tell regret words to Karna, but she confessed during the exile in 13 year near some lake. Draupadi and Krishna – A Multi-Layered Bond . So Krishna tries to trick Karna through words. Pranav - there is a lot of truth to what you've said.However, when you conclude that Karna epitomized loyalty and generosity, i think that is going overboard. After extensive research of 60 years, they came up with “The Critical Edition of the Mahabharata”. You deserve to be the king of Hastinapura. Just put yourself in Karnas position. Its like saying that I can throw acid on a girl for rejecting me publicly! Sahadeva’s spiritual capabilities were so advanced that he could have become a Prophet but he preferred to continue in his existing role in assisting Yudhishthira. He did not ignore Draupadi. My point is we cannot ignore or object our Puranas, unless and until we have any solid proofs/ points to defend our statements. Anoop - i see that too. Does Karna participates in Draupadi’s Swayamvar or not. Dharma is a word that is used to define Hinduism. I have intruded a lot on your generosity and thnak you for that .. [:)] ...Let me assure you that , I havent written this in view of a confrontation , merely putting doen my thoughts .. Many people compare Krishna and Karna, in Mahabharata and quickly choose the side of Karna. He reveals the secret of Karna’s … Rakhi – Krishna and Draupadi. He is the avatar of Lord Vishnu. As the conversation between the five Pāṇḍavas below shows, they had developed feelings for Draupadī sometime during or after the archery contest so it's possible the backstory that 'Kuntī mistakes Draupadī for alms and then orders them to share' was invented later to justify five men marrying the same woman which was forbidden at the time. शल्य = Shalya Obviously, they didn't give a damn about her. We do not know how badly hurt he was and who was responsible. I am not so happy with the outcome of Mahabharat. Why did Draupadi not protest when she was told to marry five husbands instead of one? Karna was known as daanveer Karna. He also knows how much she loathed Karna. So you see, Draupadi was considered as nothing but a pawn by someone who ought to have been her father .2. Also read that few of them still are alive even today.Google Mahaavatar babaji kripacharya . was karnan is in his right mind? People do charity to gain back anything in return. Hope this helps. PDF articles by pilot baba throws more light. To remove the confusion, Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute (BORI) came up with the idea of a critical version. When such great men have accepted it, who are we to insult her?Wouldn't you want revenge on someone who strips you naked in a public assembly?She was an epitome of forgiveness. Remember no one really won the war in the end. कर्ण = Karna It's just the matter of who is your favorite. Bheem? It is Karna who stands out the entire episode . Under this 'Upkar' of Duryodhana he remained loyal to him. So where are they !!! When Krishna came to sue for peace, he spoke to Karna. Karna's revenge cannot be justified but he had already payed for his sins during his lifetime. In early days (Mahabharatha time) it was not uncommon to praise the opponent for a move well done - but hatred blinds your judgment and once that happens, you are blinded to the basics of etiquette. नन्दको बाहुशाली च कुण्डजो विकटस्तथा ||३|| That, he was able to be that good in spite of such difficult circumstances, is what I feel makes him the most admired character in Mahabharata. during swamber before Karna nobody could lift the dhanush , but Karna lifted it , then Maan Draupdi asked to Lord Sri Kirhsna what to do . @ prathamesh Are you referring to the original post - Why he insulted Draupadi ?Or about why he was loyal to Dhuryodhana ? शक्यं = can Due to this confusion arises among scholars and common people. Is it true or not. Hello dear friends,i would also like to add what i have understood from what all i have read about Mahabharata. karna was such a person he had saved pandavas and kept dharma.stayed on words which has given to duryodhana. 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